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When he reads something he doesn’t like, Tiuche quickly changes the subject!
By charles (wrote 1419 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
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OH MY FATHER IT IS QUITE LONELY OUT OF THE WATER! Quite lonely too to dance & talk with wolves when you are a sheep!By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 11/1/2011 17:22 pm 22
re post 21: Tiuche, the big, big lie is you for continuing to pretend that polygamy would be the best thing that could happen to women. Why don’t you ask women if they want polygamy to become legal?By charles (wrote 1419 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 11/1/2011 16:52 pm 21
TO THE CHRISTIAN WOMEN WHO HAD BEEN LEAD ASTRAY BY THE BIG BIG LIE…here is a song dedicated to all of you…for which I wish could wake you up in your slumber and that you be like the Holy women of Old who called their individual husband as Lord and serving and loving them and allowing them what God allows them to have…here is a song from Bob Dylan OH SISTER:Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5bUbPyJ-xg&feature=related
Oh sister when I come to lie in your arms
You should not treat me like a stranger
Our Father would not like the way that you act
And you must realize the danger.
Oh sister am I not a brother to you
And one deserving of affection ?
And is our purpose not the same on this earth
To love and follow His direction ?
We grew up together
From the cradle to the grave
We died and were reborn
And then mysteriously saved.
Oh sister when I come to knock on your door
Don’t turn away you’ll create sorrow
Time is an ocean but it ends at the shore
You may not see me tomorrow.
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 11/1/2011 16:09 pm 20
Charles: What i pasted was an extract from the news on another site…By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 10/11/2011 08:06 am 19
Tiuche, you already made this mistake in another verse. Women do NOT normally outnumber men. The reason for the plight of women in this instance is because too many men were dying in wars. This verse has no relevance today. Today men outnumber women.Now polygamy and polyandry are not inherently wrong; only mores and religions make them so. But Jesus told us to render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s (Matt. 22:21). Which means you have to obey the law of the land. If you like polygamy so much you can move to Afghanistan.
By Charles (wrote 1419 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 10/11/2011 01:03 am 18
Polygamy might become legal in the U.S. sooner than you thinkAUGUST 08, 2011 BROTHER CHRIS 6 COMMENTS
source:http://www.votepolygamy.com/category/videos/
In Russia women outnumber men by 10 million. This has a lot of Russian women attaching themselves to able Russian men. The solution for many Russian men is to have multiple wives. Polygamy seems to be a need for many countries around the world. The US has over 40,000 underground polygamist groups according to the figures because polygamy is not legal in the U.S., but will the US consider making polygamy legal? Jeff Jared, a family and criminal defense attorney, gives his reasons to why America should legalize polygamy for consenting adults…
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 10/10/2011 15:45 pm 17
Prophesies for our day Isaiah 4:1 from the Holy ScripturesNew Living Translation (©2007)
In that day so few men will be left that seven women will fight for each man, saying, “Let us all marry you! We will provide our own food and clothing. Only let us take your name so we won’t be mocked as old maids.”
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By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 9/12/2011 15:13 pm 16
Roland G. I visited the site “soniclight” of Dr. Thomas Constable of Dallas Theological Seminary and wade through it till i found his comments on Isaiah 4:1…i could barely understand his explanation…so since you seem to be an expert and had pointed us toward him like he is the authority (or is it you?) of the interpretation of this verse, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN FOR US IN YOUR OWN WORDS WHAT HIS INTERPRETATION AND COMMENTS was FOR THIS VERSE.By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/24/2011 10:52 am 15
Monsieur Tiuche (Post #13): I forgot to mention in my post #14, be sure to read Dr. Thomas Constable’s copyright policy.By Roland G (wrote 1370 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/24/2011 00:05 am 
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Monsieur Tiuche (Post #13): Dr. Thomas Constable of Dallas Theological Seminary has some good notes on this verse to help you gain a better understanding of what you are reading. Just click below. This is not a verse that promotes polygamy.http://www.soniclight.com/constable/notes.htm
By Roland G (wrote 1370 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 23:59 pm 13
Roland G. You are of the kind that wants women to suffer reproach!Not just a few hundred women but a hundred millions of women…i cannot comprehend what kind of heart you have. You don’t care for women since you yourself is against the fulfillment of the verse Isaiah 4:1 you seem to be blatantly ignoring in your comments in it.By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 23:31 pm 12
Monsieur Tiuche (Post #11): My commentary posted under Jeremiah 31:32 is an accurate interpretation based on the original text.By Roland G (wrote 1370 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 17:14 pm 11
The problem with you Roland G is that your eyes are glued in that Genesis account of Adam having only one wife; and you reject the rest of the pieces of the picture such as:The Lord says, ” I was a husband to them,”Jeremiah 31:32.
Are you playing blind man bluff Roland G?
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 14:22 pm 10
Monsieur Tiuche (Post #9): Promoting commission of an illegal act is against the will of God and man (1 Peter 2:13-17). Government, a Divine institution, has authority to discourage and punish those who promote violations of law even if such activity is based on a misguided understanding of the will of God. If God wanted to establish a polygamous model for marriage he would have made Adam, Eve, Betty and Jane in the Garden of Eden.By Roland G (wrote 1370 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 10:42 am 9
Roland G. Promoting and preaching the Gospel of Jesus which is about the Kingdom of God includes the Laws of God-including His Laws on Polygamy!To preach a Lie that all should have only one wife is contrary the Gospel…you are always putting Words in the mouth of God by saying what He did not say. I have posted several questions to you on those verses which you never answered truthfully!
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/23/2011 10:08 am 8
Monsieur Tiuche (Post #7): Promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ is far better than promoting commission of an illegal act.By Roland G (wrote 1370 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/22/2011 21:42 pm 7
SATAN DOES NOT WANT THIS VERSE TO BE FULFILLEDAnd he had used all his power in preventing this verse to be fulfilled.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades …
; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light. … most plausible appearances of piety are assumed by Satan and his ministers. .
Think, i am all alone in proclaiming it in here that to marry several wives is not a sin. While billions believeS that the it is a sin …Even in this site …the best commentator Tractorman, perhaps the most spiritually mature here…does not even believe in what i am telling; perhaps i am a false prophet -repeating and repeating my DUMB DOCTRINE…like a broken record…walking in my WIDE ROAD TO DESTRUCTION…while the majority billions walk in the SHOULD BE MONOGAMY NARROW WAY…SO..WHO HAVE SATAN FOOLED! The billions or it is TIUCHE?
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/22/2011 14:58 pm 6
700 club & POLYGAMY…new year 2005Source:http://www.pro-polygamy.com/articles.php?news=0035
700 Club airs its First Report on Christian Polygamy Movement
Date: Aug 16, 2005
Word Count: 1650 words
Cross-Reference: 700 Club, polygamy rights, CBN, Pat Robertson, slippery slope
The 700 Club made its first historic report of the new movement of Christian Polygamy, rightly identifying such activists as evangelical Christians, as many interview quotes from the founder of TruthBearer.org proved.
On August 16, 2005, a news segment on the 700 Club, with renowned Christian leader Pat Robertson, aired a report, titled, “Polygamy: The Next ‘Right’ to be Legalized?” In addition to broadcasting it on CBN, TBN, and elsewhere, the show also aired at 10:00 am and 11:00 pm EST on the cable network “Family Channel.”
The only parts of the report which actually addressed polygamy, specifically, were the title and the next-to-last quoted soundbites. However, a sentence early in the report very accurately explained that it was addressing, “a slippery slope to legalized polygamy and beyond - to ‘polyamory,’ or group marriage.” Indeed, most of the report focused on the “beyond polygamy” subjects, dealing more specifically with the liberal, unbiblical concepts of polyamory and group marriage - neither of which are definitions of actual polygamy.
Near the end of the report, however, an accurate and quite proper segue was made to actual polygamy. After reporting about the liberal concepts of polyamory and group marriage, the 700 Club then segued to the converse of such things - conservative Christians.
The segment reported, “Polygamy has a range of defenders, including evangelical Christians. Mark Henkel is founder of the Christian polygamy organization, TruthBearer.org. He says Christian polygamists believe husbands are called to love their wives, as Christ loved the churches, according to Scripture.
“‘We’re talking about what consenting, un-coerced, non-abused adults choose to do, and the idea of what we call forced polygamy, that basically creates an obligation or enslaves woman,’ Henkel said. ‘That is just horrendous.’
“‘For a Christian polygamist, for instance,’ Henkel added, ‘nobodies rights are being infringed, and government has no business in being involved in that… And certainly polygamy is not a sin according to the Bible. But it’s illegal in the United States? It’s illegal primarily because, first of all, individuals have thought it was a sin. That becomes a circular argument: Why is it a sin? Because it’s against the law. Why is it against the law? Because it’s a sin.’”
The very next line in that report then started with the opening clause, “Sin or no sin.” For the report to follow the Christian Polygamy sound-bites with that particular segue-clause was a very positive example of further acknowledgment that there is legitimate doubt among evangelicals as to whether the Bible ever called polygamy a sin. (Indeed, back in the year 2001, Pat Robertson himself had correctly once temporarily declared online, “You won’t find the Bible calling polygamy a sin.”)
More importantly, the August 16, 2005, episode was the 700 Club’s first report about the Christian Polygamy movement. As the 700 Club did that historic act for their news organization, the report quite clearly and accurately identified that the movement involves evangelical Christians.
As a testament to CBN’s integrity, they simply could not have reported otherwise, based on what the 700 Club / CBN News learned from the actual interview with Mark Henkel.
Pat Robertson’s comments after the news report aired was, therefore, no surprise. While his commentary focused specifically on homosexuals and their denial that polygamy is next, and then focused on liberal polyamory and group marriage, Robertson merely said that “something has to be done” while not saying exactly what that “something” should be. Specifically, he did not comment about polygamy itself - except to say that “polygamy is next.”
It is further relevant that, as homosexuals deny polygamy activism (as the report clearly sought to disprove such denials), polygamists equally do not advocate “same sex marriage.” As the 700 Club vividly learned from the interview with Christian polygamy advocate, Mark Henkel, another truly conservative Christian solution as to what “could be done” is to remove the idolatry of having big government’s involvement in marriage.
In that original interview, when Henkel had been asked for his thoughts on the marriage amendment, he gave the following quote.
QUOTE: “I love my fellow Christians, and it is a [pause] disappointment… I know I make mistakes and in my own errors, and I see that my fellow Christians, in this particular situation, are also making a mistake. And, knowing, there but for the grace of God there go I. At the same time, I understand, just like we also need to preach about the truth that homosexual behavior is a sin according to the Word of God, the same thing is true is that idolatry is a sin according to the Word of God. And Revelation 21:8 says all idolators shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone…”
Explaining how so many Christian leaders could be making that unwitting mistake, Henkel then did what most evangelical Christians would do. He turned to the Bible. More than that, Henkel’s explanations cited Biblical examples and responses about which only an obviously serious Bible student would even know or understand - proving his credibility and sincerity as a genuine Bible-believing Christian.
QUOTE: “And the problem is - really what we have is an example - is the leaders have gone the way of Jeroboam son of Nebat. And that is a perfect Bible Study to understand what has gone on with the leadership bringing us, because it is bringing God’s people into idolatry to worship the false god of government as the ’savior’ of marriage when God alone defined it, never needed government to define it, and we’re not talking about Biblical marriage. We’re talking about ‘government marriage’ which isn’t Biblical. If you say marriage is not defined, a person’s not married if it is not defined by the government, then you’ve just said every single person in the Bible wasn’t married. God forbid. You’ve just called them all fornicators. God forbid…”
QUOTE: “The problem is turning to the false god of big socialist government to define it for us. And, the Revelation I read, the Book of Revelation I read doesn’t say that, you know, the biggest threat to us Christians is the biological impossibility of ’same sex marriage.’ It talks about the ‘Beast’ and having control over all. And THAT, the ability… to do that is through the continuing building up of precedents of socialist social engineering Marxist justifications for the false god of big socialist government to the point that has control over all the world, executes the ‘war against the saints,’ and ultimately, I can see the marriage amendment as being and having the blood of the killed saints in that war on its hands - having laid one of those Leftist, Marxist, Socialist engineering type of justification the government uses to justify social engineering.”
Clearly, those kinds of quotes do not come - and could not come - from some liberal non-Christian who does not know or enjoy reading the Bible.
Further explaining why such social engineering is neither conservative nor Christian , Henkel further clarified. Using the same language and arguments as any Constitutionalist conservative would rightly use, he said the following.
QUOTE: “Individuals have rights. There’s no such thing as ’society’s rights.’ ‘Society’s rights’ is premised exclusively in Marxism. And anybody ever defining the idea, or using ’society has a right,’ is using Marxist argumentation. And that’s not conservative. That’s not Christian. And that’s not constitutional.”
QUOTE: “The minute you justify using government for social engineering, you have embraced Liberalism.”
With all that, Henkel explained the more-typical conservative solution to the “legalized same sex marriage” issue. In doing so, he repeated rhetoric that is familiar to most Christian conservatives when talking about most any other political issue: limited government as the Constitution requires.
QUOTE: “The real solution to prevent ’same sex marriage’ is to remove government from being involved, and to remove the idolatry of the false god being involved in defining it. And whether people imagine… the biological impossibility of ’same sex marriage,’ if they choose to imagine that, there is no legal basis, there’s no ’slippery slope’ at that point. So, the idea of establishing government authority, that’s why anti-polygamy is the real ’slippery slope’ that brought us to ’same sex marriage.’”
With those kind of arguments in the original interview, the 700 Club was clearly able to see that the movement of Christian Polygamy is truly coming from kind-hearted and Bible-based evangelical Christians. And so they rightly reported that fact in their first report about the movement. As facts and honesty required that they do nothing less, it is to their credit and is a reflection of the CBN network’s integrity that they rightly did so.
As a final testimony of Henkel’s Christian confidence, near the end of the interview, he offered himself to all of the Christian Churches, in a voice of gentle compassion.
QUOTE: “I have, basically, one thing I would like to say to every single conservative Christian, pastor, leader: Bring it on. Let’s have an international television event. I’ll take you all on, not because of me, but because the Word of God is so true. I’m nobody. I’m just a vessel… I’m nothing. The Word of God stands on Its own. And we can have this debate in front of everybody. I’ll ask for a trial before all the churches. I’m glad to. But you know what? It’s not likely to happen. Reason why? Because I’ll win, because the truth really is the truth and the Spirit of God is the Spirit of God. Hallelujah!”
As anyone who is familiar with such conservative Christians knows, that kind of faithful confidence and rhetoric is clearly how evangelical Christians “talk and walk.”
As such, the 700 Club’s true integrity could only accurately report, “Polygamy has a range of defenders, including evangelical Christians.” The 700 Club / CBN network, therefore, officially and honestly made its first historic report about the Christian Polygamy movement.
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 8/17/2011 13:15 pm 5
REJECTING GOD’S COUNSEL ON WHAT SHOULD BEA female co-worker and me had been getting closed to each other; we were becoming good friends…My heart goes out to her, especially since her husband had left her for another probably 5 years ago. She had four (4) children with him and just recently she got sick with cancer…
And we were talking yesterday about marriage and the topic drifted to the topic of how maried men would always desire other women…i tried to open up to her God’s Laws on the Bible, but my words did not profit her. She told me how unfair it was that men could have several women while they (or she) would be loyal to their husband. She told me, if a man could do it, women could do it as well. Our talk would not match…it could not synchronize…she was on a different level…a modern level tinted with Jezebels doctrine and she did not know it…though she was a professing Christian the Bible seems foreign to her…
I felt foolish talking to her as the talk instead of going to the BOTTOM LINE of the problem was flip flopping superficially on the surface…i change the subject…dwelt with her for a little while and then took my leave.
Into my mind was further etched the gulf that separates Bible Believers from unbelievers…despite the fact that when i talk with Bible believers about Polygamy i met oppositions yet we have the same basis on who the authority is…while talking to unbelievers present problems on who the authority is. Trying to tell them God is my authority is like telling them that my authority is fantasy…
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 6/26/2011 04:22 am 4
This verse had never happened in a worldwide scale before in the past…it is only possible today…today, a lot of women work…unlike in previous generations..but one thing prevents it from happening worldwide ,,,it is the lie that have been taught on our women… as the serpent beguiled the first woman…so the deception carries on …modern women do not know who the holy women of old that they should follow…and had made celebrities as their example of what a woman should be…but despites the false doctrine taught by society to our women…many of their colleagues are becoming practical and had began practicing the above verse in their lives even though they do not know the verse…despite the pressure from a society that had gone astray…
By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 5/2/2011 14:06 pm 3
Before I explain what that BIG BIG LIE is…would you please tell me how you understand Isaiah 4:1. …that is if you are that interested in the Good Book.Follow me to at tiuche@blogspot.com….By TIUCHE (wrote 51 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 4/10/2011 02:58 am 
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Please explain what the Big Lie is.By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 4/9/2011 19:24 pm 
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The enemy of God does not want this verse to be fulfilled…so that he had spread a very big big lie. Remember he is the archdeciever, and when he creates a lie, most people will believe it. So that he had created a lie all over the world in order to prevent the fulfillment of the above verse. Say, are you aware what the Big Lie is?By TIUCHE (wrote 2430 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)Posted on: 4/9/2011 19:10 pm Leave Your Bible Commentary on Isaiah 4: 1 (or ask a question) and help others with their Bible Studies!
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It is December 2011 many hundred of years from the changed that was made on the Laws of God on marriage, so the Saint thought. And as he pondered on the ill effects that the changed had caused on society, he also thought of his situation and that of his wives!
As his first wife laid peacefully on his arm in his home, he thought about his second wife just kilometers away. She was alone with her mother and relatives. She was hurrying to find another home for her mother was old and her brothers and sisters had their own families. She had chosen him a married man from her many suitors for she know he was responsible and caring. Although he was married, she opted for him despite his age; rejecting younger men and risking shame and her dignity in the process. Why? She was the only one who knew her reasons.
The Saint wanted to take his second wife home, but in Christendom, it was TABOO! His first wife vehemently opposed even just the idea of having a second one, brainwashed by the society they have lived in.So he look to the idea to the 2nd kind of set-up but he knew too of the expense of maintaining two household and he cannot afford it. In his country the rich maintains several households under several wives with this kind of set-up; but he was poor and his second wife was poor…so the problem. If it was not taboo he could easily afford it with the first kind of set-up.
The Saint thought of his 2nd wife and the rest of the women in the same predicament. As tears fell down on his eyes as it had fallen hundred of times for the daughters of his people-he resolved even more- to fight for them!He quoted with the Lord Jesus the Word of God:
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;”